"Claire was always in the gym and. I was taking one heaping scoop of C…The most popular bodybuilding message boards!So I've been taking Mesomorph preworkout and it's the closest thing I've tried since the old Jack3d formula. . O. but 1MR is the best pre w/o i've ever used 08-09-2010, 09:53 AM #14. Was reading a news story about a guy who took Jack3d and tested positive for amphetamines, is that possible? LOL my job tests and the last thing I need is to test positive for meth, that will be a good "career" move. I started taking Milk Thistle maybe around September. 13 min read. The remainder of the ingredients. Jack3d was the second closest thing to steroids you could acquire in high school besides Sarms. 5mg and slowly go up. N. -Caffeine amount < 250mg (can take less than a serving, don't like too much caffeine) OG Craze was my favorite pre, and I did like OG Jack3d as well, though it sometimes made me crash pretty bad. I love it but I don't experience very good pumps from it. The. VPX Redline Extreme RTD, I've tried like 25 different Pre-Workouts and learned I'm stim tolerant to the point I had gave up on energy supplements. 220 votes, 68 comments. 300+ bought in past month. I normally stay away from anything that has a proprietary or matrix blend. Here’s some ingredients in one serving of Jack3d: Caffeine (100 mg per serving) Creatine Matrix (Patented Blend) Rhodiola Rosea Extract (For Energy)It has more serving and the price is also very less. The bigger question is how much 1,3 dimeth is in each scoop. Now I’m an olympic lifter. Claire Squires, the 30-year-old woman who died while running the London marathon last year, had a now-banned stimulant, Jack3d, in her water bottle. But I try some preworkout with DMAA but every where is DHMA+DMAA. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. im saving this for a day im low on energy or a day where I need some rocketfuel. The good old days lol . You can get DMAA at sites that sell gear. I just took an old mesomorph or jack3d. The last of my og jack. Supplements. shatter - i liked this one. 1. As you can see it looks a lot more like a normal pre-workout comparted to the old formula of Craze, that crazy energy amped up feeling was most likely coming from the. whatever i bought from here a while ago still in a bb. I took Jack3d from June till September. i took jack3d only once, but i remember feeling good during the workout, but later that day, i felt really really tired. Just take one scoop and you’re ready to rock and roll in the gym. NASM Certified Personal Trainer and Nutritionist. SP250 (orange) is also delicious. How does the OG mesomorph makes you feel? I'm not looking for pumps etc - mainly performance enhancing. 45 votes, 20 comments. Add to Cart. Valheim Genshin Impact Minecraft Pokimane Halo Infinite Call of Duty: Warzone Path of Exile Hollow Knight: Silksong Escape from Tarkov Watch Dogs: Legion. 5g of AAKG,Creatine Mono, and Beta Alanine thats in the new JACK3D. but on one work out i mixed 2 or 3 scoops in with some mountain dew. Apr 4, 2010. Seemed to be a good balance of stim and pump. i've heard some nice things via youtube about DMAA from my doctor, (doctor tony huge) and have ordered some to try. 5 Side Effects of Jack3d Formula. While searching the internet I've found a (maybe a ripoff) formula that look almost exactly like the old formula of Jack3D and it's called Finaflex N. Business, Economics, and Finance. 5 Side Effects of Jack3d Formula. Banned in the state of California. -Xplode - Works as well, gives you the shits. ago. Rep Power: 15416. MrVeins. Im from Czechia (Czech Republic) And I love old formula with DMAA. ago. Filled with 45 servings OldJack will help push you to your limits and then push a little further during your most rigorous training sessions. Tasted awful and I didn't feel anything from it. Every Day new 3D Models from all over the World. Pump Addict Ultra Hardcore - Muscle Addiction. Beta Alanine: 1. $36. Beginning with the 4th use, if needed, you may gradually increase serving by a half scoop (2. I'd kill for the old Jack3d back for when I need it, but as far as I can tell that shit is genuinely awful for the human body. From the good old days of NOxplode, to the original Jack3D, and the bevy of new brands out…Jack3d® pre-workout gives users much more than expected in terms of energy, focus and powerful muscle pumps. Every time I took the old jack3d I had major pr's in the weightroom on the squat/bench. Woke AF is the closest I've found to the original Jack3d. you can buy every ingredient on the back of oldjack 3d. Note: Coupons are typically one per account. Big™ Posted January 14, 2014. The energy (and really overall effects) of Old Jack is just like the original Jack3d. Every Day new 3D Models from all over the World. Eating more food is. DMAA was a key ingredient in the formula and was promoted as a safe and effective way to boost focus, endurance, and power during workouts. Any tips or posing coach recommendations would be appreciated. It's definitely a performance enhancer and will give you that feeling of the old Jack3d. a coach that made the whole team take a scoop before practice everyday, and it made me puke every single time. Philip Tracy, the owner of Max Muscle of Reno, described Jack3d as an “amphetaminelike compound” that “speeds up your heart rate” and could “possibly” cause death. you can buy every ingredient on the back of oldjack 3d. I will miss you old Jack3d, now you are not pretty good like before. 5 Reviews. I. USP Labs - a brand owned and manufactured by Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals, provides some of the supplements that just cannot compare to anything else on the market. I used to take the old school jack3d before high school football games, but that was it. animal pump - this one is good but I feel like i want to drink my pre workout instead of take pills. etc ~jek555, 201224 votes, 24 comments. The closest thing to Jack3d on the market - and Hi-Tech has now disclosed doses in each scoop! UPDATED WITH DMHA! Caffeine: 100mg. "The Old Jack3d" Pre-workout. O. old school jack3d - this stuff was crazy. Of course if you can train without anything, that’s best. Edit: here are the ingredients to jack3d: Proprietary Blend Creatine Monohydrate Caffeine Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate Beta AlanineIt's not "very powerful" in my experience at least compared to something like DMAA (the old Jack3d formula) or ephedrine or Adderall. Purple Wraath White Flood N. r. Online Trainer/Coach - PM for Details/Inquiries. Save 42%. True of any of the pre-workout stuff. Filled with 30 servings, Old Jack EXTREME can help push you to your limits and then push a little further during your most rigorous training sessions. mixing all different pre workouts. Home. Health note** I'm not a medical professional -- I'm a highly opinionated gym-rat professional blogger and anything I say, write or type is for entertainment purposes only. Claire Squires, the 30-year-old woman who died while running the London marathon last year, had a now-banned stimulant, Jack3d, in her water bottle. Both are phenethylamines. Shipping is free with Prime or on $25+ orders. At dosages ~50mg it really stimulates you when you're too tired. 250mg caffeine, 25. I will miss you old Jack3d, now you are not pretty good like before. . Add a Comment. Hits me like the old Jack3d USED to, but even harder, and it lasts for the whole workout like White Flood. Piperzines are often used in making fake ecstasy pills for the similar sensation they provide. PinelliPunk. This is the 1st and Only review on Genone Labs new preworkout "OLD JACK" the twin of the OG formula Jack3d thru Usplabs. Everyone remembers that first time they tried Jack3d and started. The old jack3d was, in all honesty, the best thing short of actual steroids. Ultra Hardcore pre-workout formula for those who want intense energy & insane, mind-blowing pumps. Supplements, Herbs, Nootropics, Hardcore (stuff like the old jack3d) PEDs Perc 30s and other hard drugs Psychedelic drugs Weed (still smoke) For the past 8 years or so I’ve lived a more responsible life, and I’ve really honed in low hanging fruit such as being outdoors, training, meditating, reading, philosophy, etc. 19 votes, 38 comments. 1 grams) with 4 ounces of cold water and consume 30-45 minutes prior to resistance training. Muscle Pumps and Endurance. Gen One Labs brings you its maximum performance pre-workout igniter Old Jack EXTREME. I have similar effects with taking 200mgs caff+50mgs dmaa these days. A post for all the people who take pre workout aas what's your favorites aas to take before your workout And how long before your workout Do you take it. im like are u serious the stuff is like $ 50. SKU 180 Categories Beta Alanine, DMAA Booster, Hardcore Bo oster, Pre workout bo. They all give me the same…Best Pre-Workout? discussion on the TexAgs Health & Fitness forum. Old JACK3D is still the pinnacle preworkout Reply. It is the only way, they say, they can make sense of a healthy young man dying from cardiac arrest. The end of an era has come, but we will forever remember this incredible pre workout supplement as one that changed the industry and powered some of the best. AbbreviationsEast723 • 6 days ago. SKU uspJ3D. From the very beginning the market was being heavily manipulates so that the high end stuff was too expensive for everyone else to get and everything else was worthless and sold for pennies. thelochteedge • 1 yr. the nitrogen group is considered the functional group and the first carbon atom attached to. This is a home movie from my film collection that I had digitally transferred showing some old scenes taken way back in 1926 of Vancouver, British Columbia Canada. USP Labs Jack3d (Jacked) Pre-Exercise CNS-Carnosine-ATP Augmentor 8. This SubReddit is for discussion of CrossFit, functional fitness, weightlifting and the lifestyle…old jack3d was epic new jack3d doesnt have the same effect (not a tolerance issue, i was off stims for months) . Pretty good. Important note* Recovering drug addict +2 years now. Unless he has a heart condition, he should be fine on jack3d as long as he isn't overdoing the dosage. Schisandra Chinensis. BlurstAnswerPossible • 11 yr. Powder 30 Servings (Pack of 1) 6,354. Benefits include increased energy, improved endurance, enhanced focus and concentration, and improved muscle pumps. Even a quarter scoop gets you that zone feeling. Jack3d™ is well known and appreciated by bodybuilders as one of the strongest pre-workout supplements to ever hit the market. scots23 • 12 yr. I came across this product and was very surprised to see that it is a near identical clone of the OLD jack3d formula that most (including me) preferred to the current jack3d formula. . DMAA was a key ingredient in the formula. For me 25mg has me shaking; I've heard of others needing 75-100mg to really get going. 9 reviews. It's my understanding that Jack3d was probably on the higher side per scoop than other PWO's, hence it's popularity. A subreddit designed for discussion of supplements and nutraceuticals; for health, performance, or any…This is not correct. 50-60mg is a common dosage for preworkout. The Original Jack3d formula contains creatine, beta alanine, caffeine and the main focus-point is 1,3 Dimethylamylamine, better known as Methylhexanamine or. Old Jack assists your workout with amplified energy, razor sharp focus, and prolonged muscular endurance. I purchased the old Jack3d formula about 2 weeks ago, however day 3 into taking the PWO I was no longer feeling anything. GenOne Labs brings you its new maximum performance pre-workout igniter OldJack Pre Workout. 1. SK. Rumor is some German dudes took like 4 scoops and died, so they tuned back the recipe. Jack3d by USP Labs is a potent pre-workout supplement designed to elevate energy levels, enhance focus, and increase endurance during workouts. you know, that same Piazza who never had a steroid accusation against him ever, except for the one idiot who said he had backne. by USP Labs. It’s pretty good (it reminds me of one called Uncut from a few years ago) but no. glacierxdde • 6 days ago. ReplySo I went to GNC and the sales rep there was like "yo bro i got some stuff that will make u go amped in the gym its called C4" so im like alright let me look at the ingredients and this stuff was just full of vitamin b12 and caffeine. Just a comparison, his pre workout (Pre JYM) has around 26g of ingredients that are all fully disclosed. I get a different mental buzz from topicals that contain epiandro but the thing I like about Pump Addict is that there is like a focus element but without the side effects of the old school jack3d. Jack3d Pre-Workout Ingredients. Directions: Mix 1 Ultra-Concentrated Scoop (5. Pre workout works just fine but has a bunch of unnecessary ingredients and is overpriced. Thread Tools. I never tried the new formula but went through 2 or 3 bottles of the original stuff from January 2011-August 2013. 5 scoops Goycomyx with 1/2 gal water, 10gr Glutamine & 2 scoops Recover Pro. I used to be a ECA guy. m instead of the full tub as the reviews are not that good. Everything from oxys to glass to dope. Among them Black Powder, Jack3d, Assault, Gaspari SuperPump Max, and Craze. Wanted to switch out to SPMAXX but RSP dyno also interesting as a stack, any. Supplement Auction. Classic physique. Hydrazine. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Jack3d+Jack+3d+USP+Labs+Advanced+45+Servings+Not+Micro+Fruit+Punch+094922463005 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!Look at any energy drink you can buy at 7-11 and they will have something similar to the Jack3d warning, its just a way for companies to cover there @ss if some kid messes himself up by taking way to much of a product. Xplode ( I used this before and it wasn't nearly as good as the old sp250, but they have. Ignite (search it yourself). Well, sibutramine was, until 2010 iirc, marketed and prescribed as a treatment for obesity meant to be used along with exercise and diet. Been looking for some reviews but i can't find any. Really looking for something like the old jack3d with the good energy rush but ever since dmaa products got banned all i see are crappy caffeine/creatine filled pre workouts. Again everyone has their own triggers. The most popular bodybuilding message boards!54 votes, 104 comments. CryptoYoooooo, i dont know about you guys but i need a strong preworkout, I loved the old Jack3d, but the new reformulated one is not good, at all! i take it and fall asleep!, I have been trying this new pre-workout call Caution, from Xtreme Caution Labs. A death and stroke, as well as headaches, vomiting, high blood. This is actually a banned ingredient and what got the people behind USP Labs Jack3d pre-workout into trouble (more on that later). no wonder those work outs. Benefits include increased energy, improved endurance, enhanced focus and concentration, and improved muscle pumps. OLD Jack3D. 19 year old 5’8 147lbs if it matters This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast Related Topics. Sufferd from a bit of ED once I got to Uni. First the old jack3d formula (Not sure if the new one is ok) 2. Old Jack3d vs new Dark Labs CRACK PWO 👀 People who have been in the game for a while, how does old Jack3d (or any OG DMAA pwo) compare to new Dark Labs CRACK or other 2022 "DMAA" pre workouts in general? Feb 16, 2014. The most popular bodybuilding message boards!Added L-Swolitine for EXTRA GAINZ. DMAA was in the old Jack3d pre-workout. 90 € 38. I used to be one of the bigger guys on this sub under a different name (aqualitypoop) and I was appalled by some of the cycles being run in here by dudes who are 145 lbs soaking wet. NO explode did this to me, and also seemed to give me an irregular heart beat frequently. In this article, here’s what I’ll cover: Why Was Jack3d Banned? My. The Hodgetwins said in their review that they would no longer be taking Jack3d because the old craze was much stronger than the old Jack3d. 10 > now $12. I've never tried the new formula but the old stuff was the best pre-workout i've every tried (out of 4 or 5 different brands). Show Printable Version; 02-11-2014, 08:25 PM #1. By admin. Every other pre-workout I've tried since Jack3D coagulates in the tub too, but I've. Sup guys, I was hoping you guys could educate me a bit about exercises for my legs. HydeMind. i just bought two container today expiring 10/12 and i. SARMS. Canelo lost the first one, barely won the second and then couldn’t finish an inactive 40 year old in the last fight. Originally Posted by Morentz. 08-20-2009, 10:42 PM #8. I've gone through a tub of the old white flood formula (currently on a new tub of the new formula), C4 and the old jack3d formula. 4. 1 Like. When I opened it, the powder looks brown and formed into chunks (see pictures below)…Business, Economics, and Finance. dropforce. ago. . Reply [deleted] • Additional comment actions. Just pick one, turn up your headphones and work hard in the gym. Sep 25, 2020 #5 TerminatoRS Well-Known Member. Top dietary supplements like Jack3d and OxyElite Pro were removed from military bases after two soldiers died last year from heart attacks during exercise, according to a spokesman for the Army’s assistant secretary of defense for health affairs. Affordable price in the market. Over Xmas, I left all my supplements in Uni and came home and my ED was gone completely, everything was fine. 3 %free Downloads. First Tub was the original Formula which was named JACKED had a bit less than the 3. I try caffeine and dont get much of a bump there. 2. The original Jack3d formula, which was introduced in 2008, contained DMAA (1-3 Dimethylamylamine). Also consider Yok3d alongside Jack3d/one of the other supps with DMAA. Amazon [] has 9. Probably the most legendary Pre Workout Booster on the market! + 50€ FREE SHIPPING. Thinking about seeing what all the glycerol hype is and moving my rep. 01-04-2010, 10:41 PM #2. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. " poured the whole thing into my water, slammed it about 30. i took jack3d and hated it. Watch there review below. Just saw an article the other day that the British government linked the death of a marathoner to one scoop of Jack3d. A. The Old jack3d, but that shit made my mouth dry as fuck. #1 Hello, I have seen on several websites a jack3d with the original formulation and also dmha, has anyone tried it? I thought that usp labs no longer manufactured it but says that it belongs to this company. im like are u serious the stuff is like $ 50. A very good in-the-zone feel. Stimulants were my go-to. Premium Powerups Explore Gaming. ChipSalt • 3 mo. 74. . OLD Jack3D. Cellucor c4 - Has a similar profile to the old Jack3d and is a popular Pre workout supp now. Xplode ( I used this before and it wasn't nearly as good as the old sp250, but they have. 06-08-2010, 12:39 PM #17. and ive been getting BA CM AGmatine High caffeine. Recovered CNS grants better response to the stimulants. News, articles, personal pictures, videos & advice on everything related to…Conan Exiles: Complete Edition (v4. We drove to every single gym trying to find one that was open, faces on fire. So to start off I've been lifting for about a year now and ~4 months ago i decided to start taking pre-workout to get some energy in the gym after a…This substance is legal in my country, and is sold as nootropics. 01-11-2010, 11:57 PM #15. id mix it like an hour before, and then drink in 20 minutes before working out, if you mix it in with alittle dew( like 6 oz) then drink it like 5-10. Hi i am looking for OLD formula Jack3D. Possibly free of might-be-banned substances. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. . Supplement ForumsJust bought a five serving pack of 1. S. November 7, 2011. PinelliPunk. Maximize Intense has a much more complete profile with plenty of effective performance enhancing ingredients at good doses. O. hey guys, am thinking about entering a natty contest soon (NANBF). Next was Jack3d, which I still swear was the best ever. It's almost as good as the old pre-workouts with DMAA (that's what made the old jack3d so good) Reply rsteroidsthrow2 •. € 54,90 € 39,90 incl. 51 votes, 13 comments. But, what it lacks for here, it makes up for in other extracts and ingredients. 16-year-old Taylor. He said he feels like superman on it. 1 Jack3d Ingredients. So I went to GNC and the sales rep there was like "yo bro i got some stuff that will make u go amped in the gym its called C4" so im like alright let me look at the ingredients and this stuff was just full of vitamin b12 and caffeine. ago. Join us to discuss WWE…I also used the old jacked a few times, it was ok. The drink Jack3D has been banned by the UK's medicines watchdog. Nutritional label for the old Jack3d. Ignite Stimulant Matrix: Green Tea Extract (60% EGCG), Caffeine Anhydrous, 1,3-Dimethylamylamine, Theophylline (from Guarana Extract), Schizandrol APosts: 7,425. 3. Note: Coupons are typically one per account. Com Jack3d você não estará pagando por 2 ingredientes básicos e 20 obsoletos ! Além de ter um sabor delicioso. Spinal Fusion Crew* RB 5k+ 01-20-2010, 05:56 AM #15. 2. 1927 "antique jack" 3D Models. While this has only ever been linked to other deaths anecdotally, the whole product, as well as other products containing DMAA, were recalled. What set Jack3d apart was its inclusion of DMAA (Methylhexanamine) as its main ingredient, which is basically an analogue of an amphetamine and has similar effects. Probably the most legendary Pre Workout Booster on the market! 44. Contains 150 CC salbutamol. OLD Jack3D Hi i am looking for OLD formula Jack3D. The most popular bodybuilding message boards!The supplement, known as “Jack3d,” pronounced Jacked, contains an ingredient that makes it unique. Podcasts. JACK3D is an intenese high stimulant pre-workout supplement. Really have not used that in years. Jack3d uses the chemical Dimethylamylamine (aka Methylhexanamine) which is chemically similar to both amphetamine and ephedrine. the old Jack3d had great reviews thats why im interested in MGN's Massive Growth, but if this is dangerous i dont want to play with my health 02-20-2010, 12:24 PM #5. khergan. Overall, the new Jack3d actually doesn’t have that much caffeine. Michael Sparling was only 22-years-old. Machine 270x14RP Underhand Hammer Pull Down 200x17RP *had trouble bc the grips were spinning V-bar Cable Row 160x13 180x9 DId jack3d micro 45min pre workout then mixed up 1. The Air Force didn't really notice it until I was getting my retirement, but by then the amount of pre workout and energy drinks I had ingested would make me a viable option as a battery in a Tesla. . *Supplement Facts are based on 3 scoop serving. He has definitely demonstrated his ability to “eat more food”. Besides, theophylline was not the active agent in Jack3d, so its removal cannot define the potency or otherwise of Jack3d. meh. 5mg Taldalafil 2hrs pre lift I've done a lot of shit for 'science', including the time FlushBrah and I used some vodka from the night before in lieu of alcohol swabs. O. My question is any LEGIT shop where the old Jack3D with only DMAA is proven? Currently using old Jack3d, has always been my favorite. Amelia Hill. -Mood enhancement. Kenneth Lee. Pre workouts like jack3d and craze cost what would be 70U$ for you guys. Rookie Join Date Feb 2014 Location East Coast Posts 25 Rep Power 9. Anyone who used the original formula should EXPECT to notice a decrease in focus/energy, just look at the ingredients. Updated 6:18 PM, April 12, 2013: In advance of Rock Center’s report on the supplement industry, the FDA issued a warning about DMAA, the supplement present in the popular product Jack3d. Mesomorph and Jacked Up are a couple off the top of my head. Man i miss the old Jack3d. 3 Min Read. 2370 "old jacks" 3D Models. BlurstAnswerPossible • 11 yr. Years ago JACK3D was one of the most popular and most powerful pre-workouts on the market. WOW now that's strong! My boy took 2 scoops and i had to drag him out of the gym after 2 hours. 5. Place in hardcore packaging, watch r/fitness buy out your entire stock of crystal meth. WOW. Feb 20, 2009. 1,3-Dimethylamylamine HCl. The most popular bodybuilding message boards!Those plus the Var and caffeine is a great combo…. News, articles, personal pictures, videos & advice on everything related to…The most popular bodybuilding message boards!Désolé du déterrage mais au cas ou certains voudrait commander sur suppz l'ancien jack3d, cela fait un petit moment que j'attends ma commande et je commence sérieusement à me poser des questions. i am currently using the lemon lime flavor of MG and have tried both the lemon lime and fruit punch flavors of jack3d. So I went to GNC and the sales rep there was like "yo bro i got some stuff that will make u go amped in the gym its called C4" so im like alright let me look at the ingredients and this stuff was just full of vitamin b12 and caffeine. The U. Aug 29, 2013. 1MR will get you plenty more caffeine. Isatori Isa-Test (New 2x Formula) Review. That’s a pretty advanced FFMI. I came across an unfinished bottle of the original oxyelite pro in my house the other day. View Profile View Forum Posts Registered Abuser Join Date: May 2009 Location: United States Age: 33 Posts: 893 Rep Power:. I love Jack3d, but I have also never taken more than like 1. That being said I don't do it all the time because I don't want to make sober workouts feel really shitty, and cardio feels like too much of an effort when I'm stoned. (250 Grams) 45 Ultra Concentrated Scoops. Seemed to be a good balance of stim and pump. Latest reviews Search resources. So I went to GNC and the sales rep there was like "yo bro i got some stuff that will make u go amped in the gym its called C4" so im like alright let me look at the ingredients and this stuff was just full of vitamin b12 and caffeine. Everywhere I looked, seeking a supplement I could rely on, I only found despair, disappointment, and malcontent. Be cautious. That is until recently. Serious Nutrition Solutions - Competitive Edge Labs - Muscle. 2 grams of active ingredients per scoop and about 135mg of Caffeine per scoop. 41 results for "jack3d" Results Check each product page for other buying options. Ill start off by saying i am NOT a stim junkie. I want to know how many vats of the old Jack3d formula Siciliano goes through on a average Sunday or at the vary least he's got some cousins that score him knockoff ritalin that fell off a truck. 3 Min Read. Like it takes five scoops of C4 to feel anything at all in the gym. There is a reason why JACK3D is substantially cheaper than 90% of everything else on the market. The FDA called upon the makers of Jack3d and other companies that use DMAA in their products to prove its safety and that it came from a natural source (they claimed it was "geranium extract") or risk being shut down. USPLabs Hydro 100 30 Servings. Aug 12. 95. So just wanted to throw it out there, I had heard of the guy behind DS not being fully honest so stayed away from their…So I’m looking for a pre-workout similar to the old Jack3d prior to getting canned for stopping people’s hearts and such. I was thinking of stacking it with a stim-free NO booster but Mesomorph already has NO boosting ingredients so I don't want to overdo it.